Date: Thu, 6 Oct 94 04:30:20 PDT From: Ham-Digital Mailing List and Newsgroup Errors-To: Ham-Digital-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Ham-Digital@UCSD.Edu Precedence: List Subject: Ham-Digital Digest V94 #331 To: Ham-Digital Ham-Digital Digest Thu, 6 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 331 Today's Topics: 56k+ Packet System BAYCOM & MUD Internet Gateway DIFF files ? More operating system hitory RTTY Sked: DE, SD, ND Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Ham-Digital Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/ham-digital". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 14:11:09 GMT From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: 56k+ Packet System In article <9410040039.AA02497@enterprise.chinalake.navy.mil> erich@enterprise.CHinalake.navy.MIL (Erich Muschinske) writes: >[TEXT DELETED] > >>Sorry to rain on your parade, but others have been down the path >>you want to take before you, and it doesn't work. Adapting high >>speed telephone modem techniques to multipoint to multipoint radio >>systems is a lost cause. The problems of packet radio are *different* >>from those of the telephone network, and require different solutions. >> >>Gary >>-- >>Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >>Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary >>534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >>Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | > >Don't be too fast to dismiss this idea. One of the things packet networking >desperately needs is a cheap high speed data link. This is necessary for >operating a cellular packet concept. It would only have to work with the >radio on the other end, so adapting would not be out of the question. If >the price of a link could come down to about $600, I would be very interested. Well then you need a GRAPES 56kb RF modem. It's $250, and with the necessary transverter and digital interface, it's still under $600. Most of the voice radios being used for 1200 baud packet cost nearly that much. 46 times the throughput for about the same money is an unbeatable deal. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1994 23:00:27 GMT From: hanko@wv.mentorg.com (Hank Oredson) Subject: BAYCOM & MUD In article <36k4qa$sme@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, da884@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Toste) writes: |> |> y |> AN> : I want to start a MUD on packet radio. Now I'm looking for |> AN> MUD source code, |> AN> |> AN> ^^^ Forgive the ignorance but what is a MUD? |> |> MUD some call it Multi User Games. Sort of like Games found on DOOR's on |> some BBS;s Ok, some of these acronyms are familiar: MUD = Multi User Dungeon. BBS = Bulletin Board System. And some are not: DOOR = ? Or is that not an acronym? Is a game not derived from the classic "Dungeons and Dragons", and which supports multiple users called a "MUG" ? ... Hank -- Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics Library Operations Internet : hank_oredson@mentorg.com "Parts 'R Us!" Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1994 19:27:24 GMT From: Lee Love <76666.1703@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Internet Gateway DIFF files ? Can someone give me the name or IP address of a site that carries updated encap routes ? I would like to get a new DIFF file for my gateway. Lee LLove @ Novell.com 76666,1703 @ compuserve.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 94 12:19:25 EDT From: landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Subject: More operating system hitory In article , rapp@lmr.mv.com (Larry Rappaport) writes: [...] > I remember TECO - it was sort of like AWK only even more cryptic, wasn't it? > > Larry W1HJF Yes, even more cryptic than awk and any unix shell script I've seen. Commands were terminated with the char. But of course could be escaped, to embed it in other commands, etc... Maybe I'll dig out the old PDP-11 TECO Users Guide. Somebody stop me - quick! -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@drager.com - Ax25: AA3GN@WA3TSW.#EPA.PA.USA.NOAM - ampr: [44.80.8.153] Counting the days til deer season! Politically correct sig not available. ------------------------------ Date: 5 Oct 1994 14:37:48 GMT From: gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) Subject: RTTY Sked: DE, SD, ND Need a few more states on RTTY, including DE, ND, and SD. Can work 80, 30, 20, 17, 15, 12, and 10. RSVP! 73 - AL -- *********************************************************************** Al Gerheim, N4QN |Opinions expressed here| Sonalysts, Inc. gerheim@sonalysts.com |are my own. | 215 Parkway North Work: (203)442-4355 | | Waterford CT 06385 *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of Ham-Digital Digest V94 #331 ******************************